SciFiFisher wrote:I chose to ignore the claims of wide spread voter fraud in the primaries. Because at the end of the day there were no criminal or civil charges filed. And as I stated in a previous post: I don't want media reports. I want the same level and type of proof that would stand up in a court of law. People running around screaming that they were cheated after losing an election is not exactly proof. I made this decision after basically being told multiple times on Facebook and occasionally here that no amount of expertise is sufficient to prove anyone's premise.
I've been told that the primaries are run by the DNC and they can cheat and make the rules anyway they see fit because it is a private organisation and they have no obligation to be fair. IOW, if you have a private club and you want to have an unfair election within it, that is perfectly ok legally.
Now you're saying that because no charges were filed you dismiss the claims. Circular logic right there because they can be completely rigging the system and it is legal.
Even so, there also have been attempts to sue the DNC for bias etc. I don't know why you think there wasn't.
Here's one that's funny in a twisted sort of way:
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/dnc-fil ... hrown-out/The DNC attorneys also get a bit creative in their effort to get this lawsuit thrown out. They claim that all of the named plaintiffs already knew that the DNC was biased when they donated — so therefore how could they have been duped if they knew? We are not joking, that was one of their actual claims in the motion to dismiss
Another one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2603876More than 200 outraged New York voters have joined a lawsuit claiming the party affiliation on their voter registration changed without their consent. The voters say they are unfairly being shut out of Tuesday’s primary.
If you don't care about people filing law suits, then how about an investigation of the allegations by a non partisan group (Election Justice USA) and their long report:
http://www.election-justice-usa.org/Dem ... _EJUSA.pdfWas all this fraud legal? Yes. The DNC is a private group and can do what the hell it likes.
Was it ethical. Fuck no.
Did it piss of people? Hell yes, a lot of them.
Did it backfire on them and turn the election letting Trump win?
Given the numbers of people involved (40+% independents), I think the answer to that is pretty obvious given how little it would have taken to beat the most unpopular candidate in history. You really have to fuck things up monumentally to lose that one, and, they did.
So from my perspective the DNC had access to a huge base that they pissed off by their own hands but all they can do is blame others.
They refuse to take responsibility and that 40+% of people won't forget that lightly. Trust is earned. They lost it and lost it well. Worst of all, they are doing nothing about it. Just like an unrepentant criminal. While nothing will happen to them legally, politically they have screwed themselves and continue to do so.
Prepare for another term of republicans with or without Trump. The stage is already set.