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Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:33 pm
by Rommie
Pretty cool stuff, huh? :)

I actually knew it was going to be an M87 reveal a few days ago from an inside source, but was sworn to secrecy. The Sag A* data was just not as good quality so is going to take longer to process, but at least we have that to look forward to!

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:53 pm
by SciFiFisher
Totally cool! :cheer:

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:00 pm
by Sigma_Orionis
I remember reading somewhere that it was M87 as well. I suppose that yeah, Sagittarius A* must be harder to process, lots of "light pollution" in the middle :P

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:19 am
by Thumper
This thread is worthless without pictures.

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:45 pm
by geonuc
Very cool.

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:32 pm
by Loresinger
I just sat there and thought how much it looked like a birth canal and wondered what wonders might be on the other side of "delivery"

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:45 pm
by Thumper
Loresinger wrote:I just sat there and thought how much it looked like a birth canal and wondered what wonders might be on the other side of "delivery"
You may need to think about changing your brand of coffee (or whatever it is you're drinking.) :P

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:53 pm
by Sigma_Orionis
Loresinger wrote:I just sat there and thought how much it looked like a birth canal and wondered what wonders might be on the other side of "delivery"



There was a movie about that :)

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:08 pm
by Thumper
Awesome Movie
Maximilian Schell!

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:10 pm
by pumpkinpi
Thumper wrote:Awesome Movie
Maximilian Schell!


I.Need.To.See.This.Movie

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:29 pm
by lady_*nix
Oh I saw that! The science was hilariously bad, like, not even trying to make sense. There's a scene where an asteroid crashes into the ship and literally starts rolling down one of its giant hallways. :lol:

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:31 pm
by Thumper
So it was a Disney movie.
The first to garner a PG rating.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:13 pm
by lady_*nix
Probably would have been PG-13 if the rating had existed at the time TBH. It was quite violent, and often in inventively gruesome ways.

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:26 pm
by geonuc
Sitting at my favorite pub drinking an 'Astronaut Outlaw' (I have no clue why they chose that name) and reading the black hole article in the latest issue of Science News, I came across a statement that I've read forwards, backwards and sideways, yet can't wrap my head around.

"The EHT image appears as a fuzzy, asymmetrical ring with a dark void in the center - the shadow of M87's black hole on its accretion disk."

How the hell does a black hole cast a shadow? I know the data the image was created from is in the radio spectrum, but still.

Perhaps we have a radio astronomer in the house that might help me out on this.

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 3:31 pm
by Thumper
geonuc wrote:Sitting at my favorite pub drinking an 'Astronaut Outlaw' (I have no clue why they chose that name)
I believe they are running out of cool hipster names for beers. Apparently "Columbus IPA" doesn't cut it anymore. As for the shadow question, I too will wait for an expert response.

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:34 pm
by Rommie
Thumper wrote:
geonuc wrote:Sitting at my favorite pub drinking an 'Astronaut Outlaw' (I have no clue why they chose that name)
I believe they are running out of cool hipster names for beers. Apparently "Columbus IPA" doesn't cut it anymore. As for the shadow question, I too will wait for an expert response.


The apparent issue with weird beer names is you cannot in the USA usually have more than one brewery these days with the same beer name, as they're trademarked. Can you imagine how hard it is these days to find a new beer name?

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:35 pm
by Rommie
geonuc wrote:Sitting at my favorite pub drinking an 'Astronaut Outlaw' (I have no clue why they chose that name) and reading the black hole article in the latest issue of Science News, I came across a statement that I've read forwards, backwards and sideways, yet can't wrap my head around.

"The EHT image appears as a fuzzy, asymmetrical ring with a dark void in the center - the shadow of M87's black hole on its accretion disk."

How the hell does a black hole cast a shadow? I know the data the image was created from is in the radio spectrum, but still.

Perhaps we have a radio astronomer in the house that might help me out on this.


Can I just link you this YouTube video that I think explains it really well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUyH3XhpLTo

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 5:26 pm
by geonuc
Rommie wrote:
geonuc wrote:Sitting at my favorite pub drinking an 'Astronaut Outlaw' (I have no clue why they chose that name) and reading the black hole article in the latest issue of Science News, I came across a statement that I've read forwards, backwards and sideways, yet can't wrap my head around.

"The EHT image appears as a fuzzy, asymmetrical ring with a dark void in the center - the shadow of M87's black hole on its accretion disk."

How the hell does a black hole cast a shadow? I know the data the image was created from is in the radio spectrum, but still.

Perhaps we have a radio astronomer in the house that might help me out on this.


Can I just link you this YouTube video that I think explains it really well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUyH3XhpLTo


That was an extremely good explanation of the image. Thanks. But I still don't understand how the term 'shadow' is appropriate. I guess it's not important - I understand the difficulties in describing something like a black hole using terms people can relate to.

Re: Black Hole Pic

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 5:57 pm
by Thumper
Rommie wrote:
Thumper wrote:
geonuc wrote:Sitting at my favorite pub drinking an 'Astronaut Outlaw' (I have no clue why they chose that name)
I believe they are running out of cool hipster names for beers. Apparently "Columbus IPA" doesn't cut it anymore. As for the shadow question, I too will wait for an expert response.


The apparent issue with weird beer names is you cannot in the USA usually have more than one brewery these days with the same beer name, as they're trademarked. Can you imagine how hard it is these days to find a new beer name?
Yep, there's so many breweries popping up that I've seen trademark issues when more than one happens to pick the same name inadvertently. Even Great Lakes had to stop and rebrand one of their seasonals when they found out another place already had an "Alchemy Ale."