Climate Change - It's Real and We're Causing It

[SciFi Chick]

97% of scientists are in agreement on this issue.

[FZR1KG]

3% don't agree.
There are 5% sociopaths of the male population so even 2% of the sociopaths agree.
Of course, 3% disagreement makes this issue totally undecided.
Science is not a democratic process.
Let's discuss this over a few packets of cigarettes. Word has it that they have health benefits.

[Swift]

I'm not faulting you for posting this SFC, but none of this is new. The acceptance in the scientific community has been very high for years, probably decades (mostly depending on how you want to define "very high").

There are forces, it seems particularly in the US, with motives to confuse the general public about this. The motives as best as I can tell are political, monetary, and reglious (belief systems), and are fueled to a great extent by ignorance and a general lack of not giving a shit and putting off till the far future what can easily be ignored today (from the general public).

Meanwhile, the Chinese have quickly become the biggest producers of CO2 on the planet and nothing is going to change that in any way in the next several decades (and we shouldn't congratulate ourselves for this - this has happened because the Chinese are making a lot of our "stuff").

I think climate change is the single biggest environmental problem facing the human race and the world, and probably will be for the next several hundred years. I am also completely convinced that we (as a species) are going to do little or nothing to change that. It already is too late, in any practical sense, to stop it. At best we might lessen the impacts, but I don't think we're going to succeed in doing that either.

We've known this was coming for decades and we did squat. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it or is trying to sell you something.

I don't think humans are going to die out or anything (so take a big breath GJ), but we are going to knock off a large percentage of other species.

The "good news" is that I'll probably be dead before most of the shit hits the wind turbine. The kids and grandkids and greatgrandkids of the various members here will have to deal with this.

[The Supreme Canuck]

The "good news" is that I'll probably be dead before most of the shit hits the wind turbine. The kids and grandkids and greatgrandkids of the various members here will have to deal with this.

Thanks for that, by the way. "Sorry we shat all over the place, but now we're dead, so you clean it up. Bye!"

[SciFi Chick]

I posted this because of the big debate FZ had with Yosh awhile back. I don't think Yosh ever got off the fence, and I wanted to help him out.

[pumpkinpi]

I posted this because of the big debate FZ had with Yosh awhile back. I don't think Yosh ever got off the fence, and I wanted to help him out.

Also, buried in her link, is a reference to the new "What We Know" campaign just released by the AAAS. It is getting a lot of press, and rightfully so.
http://whatweknow.aaas.org/

[Sigma_Orionis]

There is some dissent amongst the IPCC, but not on the Climate Change Phenomenon, just about the report they're about to publish

[pumpkinpi]

There is some dissent amongst the IPCC, but not on the Climate Change Phenomenon, just about the report they're about to publish

In this article, "Some researchers" means one economist.

"But some researchers are decidedly unhappy with the draft report.
Prof Richard Tol is an economist at the University of Sussex, who has been the convening lead author of the chapter on economics. "

Maybe there are more, but this article does a bad job convincing me that there is a significant number of people who dissent. There a link to the report due out, but no link to back up the point of the article.

[Sigma_Orionis]

Actually the impression I got from the News Piece was that the economist in question was complaining about the wording in the report, not on the evidence about Climate Change

[Rommie]

I posted this because of the big debate FZ had with Yosh awhile back. I don't think Yosh ever got off the fence, and I wanted to help him out.

Also, buried in her link, is a reference to the new "What We Know" campaign just released by the AAAS. It is getting a lot of press, and rightfully so.
http://whatweknow.aaas.org/

My sister has actually been working on this, so it's nice to see you post it here!

My dad still refuses to "believe" her on this though...

[pumpkinpi]

Awesome. I'm excited to look through it when I have the time.