Seems people are finally realising that this was satire.
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainmen ... e-comments
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by SciFi Chick » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:14 pm
Seems Americans are finally realizing this was satire. 
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by vendic » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:31 pm
Well, some people could read XOF and not get it.
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by grapes » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:57 am
I'm one American who realized it was satire before I saw it.
My opinion then? It's bad satire. It was almost painful watching it try.
That article makes a good attempt to justify it: "Phil Coldiron described it as 'one of the greatest of all anti-imperialist films,' a parody of Hollywood form whose superficial 'badness' is central to its critique"
Nice try though, but I'm still not buying it.
My opinion then? It's bad satire. It was almost painful watching it try.
That article makes a good attempt to justify it: "Phil Coldiron described it as 'one of the greatest of all anti-imperialist films,' a parody of Hollywood form whose superficial 'badness' is central to its critique"
Nice try though, but I'm still not buying it.
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by vendic » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:24 pm
Only really smart and funny people can appreciate it. 
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by code monkey » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:37 pm
I assure you that Heinlein was not being sarcastic when he wrote the book. the movie *was* a riot.
and still i persist in wondering whether folly must always be our nemesis. edgar pangborn
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by SciFi Chick » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:03 am
code monkey wrote:I assure you that Heinlein was not being sarcastic when he wrote the book. the movie *was* a riot.
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by Cyborg Girl » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:25 am
SciFi Chick wrote:Heinlein - an overrated hack with an overactive libido.
That is so true.I still remember Friday, mind. It was a bit like a David Weber novel, only without any shame or self-consciousness.
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by code monkey » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:26 pm
SciFi Chick wrote:code monkey wrote:I assure you that Heinlein was not being sarcastic when he wrote the book. the movie *was* a riot.
Heinlein - an overrated hack with an overactive libido.
don't hold back, sfc. tell us what you really think.
and still i persist in wondering whether folly must always be our nemesis. edgar pangborn
come gentle night. come loving black browed night
give me my romeo. and when he shall die
take him and cut him out in little stars
and he will make the face of heaven so fine
that all will be in love with night
and pay no worship to the garish sun. william shakespeare
come gentle night. come loving black browed night
give me my romeo. and when he shall die
take him and cut him out in little stars
and he will make the face of heaven so fine
that all will be in love with night
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by SciFi Chick » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:21 am
code monkey wrote:SciFi Chick wrote:code monkey wrote:I assure you that Heinlein was not being sarcastic when he wrote the book. the movie *was* a riot.
Heinlein - an overrated hack with an overactive libido.
don't hold back, sfc. tell us what you really think.
I'm working on it. I think I'm improving.
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by SciFiFisher » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:12 am
I enjoyed the movie from an entertainment POV. The rivalry between the flyers and the infantry is not too horribly exaggerated. Although, I don't think it actually involves fist fights these days.
As for the original book and the movie the ideas expressed are not really that new. Society has often struggled with the idea of "earned" citizenship. But, I can see how the movie might be considered satire.
As for the original book and the movie the ideas expressed are not really that new. Society has often struggled with the idea of "earned" citizenship. But, I can see how the movie might be considered satire.
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Re: StarShip Troopers
by geonuc » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:13 am
SciFiFisher wrote:...The rivalry between the flyers and the infantry is not too horribly exaggerated. Although, I don't think it actually involves fist fights these days. ...
Maybe not in the bars you hang out in.
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