Parrothead wrote:Bill the Cat and Opus!
geonuc wrote:Parrothead wrote:Bill the Cat and Opus!
Makes more sense than Trump/Cruz or Trump/Rubio.
geonuc wrote:Brokered conventions are a thing of the past. It could happen, but the American people don't believe in that anymore. They believe in votes and get pretty damned upset when someone tries to nullify their vote. And on the rabid GOP side, those folks are well armed and have shown no reluctance to brandish weapons. Can you imagine what the Trump supporters would do if the GOP 'establishment' took away his nomination?
grapes wrote:I'm sticking with the Sanders-Obama ticket.
I know Barack isn't eligible, ...
geonuc wrote:grapes wrote:I'm sticking with the Sanders-Obama ticket.
I know Barack isn't eligible, ...
You sure? There's some uncertainty. The 22nd Amendment says no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice. Doesn't say squat about the vice-president assuming the office. The 12th Amendment has vague language about the vice-president not being 'constitutionally ineligible' but many believe that only restricts age and citizenship, particularly since the 22nd wasn't created at the time and a president could be re-lected any number of times.
Rommie wrote:So pretty obvious after last night unless you're in serious denial that it's going to be a Trump vs Clinton general election. A bit of arguing about if Trump will get the majority of delegates, but definitely his to lose.
So with that I'm still thinking a bit about Bernie's path ahead- he definitely has enough money and delegates to hang out as long as he wants. I wonder in part what the odds are of getting some of the amazing enthusiasm and energy of his followers into other elections for stuff like Congress and local legislatures. It could happen, especially if Bernie threw some weight behind such a movement, but getting into those elections is far less sexy than a presidential campaign so not sure if it would happen.
Swift wrote:Rommie wrote:So pretty obvious after last night unless you're in serious denial that it's going to be a Trump vs Clinton general election. A bit of arguing about if Trump will get the majority of delegates, but definitely his to lose.
I generally agree. It is possible that Trump enters the convention with the biggest block of delegates, but not a majority (50%+). Even in that case, he may very likely still be the nominee.
But if he enters with the biggest block, but not a majority, and if the Republican establishment tries to push through anyone else other than Trump, and they succeed and make someone else the nominee (yes, there are deliberately a lot of ifs there), things could get interesting. In that case, I would expect Trump to say that since they "stole" the nomination from him, that he is not obligated to his pledge to support the Republican nominee, and he runs as an independent. I also think that would hand the election to Hillary.
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