Mollie Tibbets

[Rommie]

So while the rest of the world saw in an hour that Donald Trump is an irreparably criminal president this week, it came to my attention that the conservative side of things are obsessing right now over the case of a young woman who was murdered in Iowa, Mollie Tibbets. Apparently there was a guy whose advances she kept ignoring, she went jogging, and was attacked and murdered by said man who was born in Mexico but was in the country illegally. (Or, that said, maybe not, his lawyer says he's here legally. It's frankly not clear to me reading up on the case.)

Now firstly, apparently her family is asking her case not be politicized. But second, I realized reading the case that it actually bothered me a bit, and forgive me if this gets a bit BMR, but I think my issue reading about this is it's being sold as a case about the issue of illegal immigration. And it's not the root of the problem. Violence against women like this does not only happen from illegal immigrant men with brown skin. Plenty of men born in the USA feel entitled to a woman's attention then act violently against them when rebuffed. If people truly cared about this woman's death from such horrific circumstances we would be discussing that, not just how a wall at the border would have stopped this particular tragedy.

Hope that makes sense, I'm not sure if I've articulated it well enough.

[SciFi Chick]

You've articulated it perfectly well, and I agree 100%. I have issues with illegal immigration. I think we all know I'm against that as well as open borders, but I've seen this trend of pointing out violent crimes by illegal immigrants as though we would all be safer if they weren't here. Absolute rubbish. I saw that posted on Facebook, and I didn't even look at it. I don't care that an illegal immigrant murdered her. I care that she was murdered.

But they're trying to put forward the narrative that if people will break a law to get into the country, they'll break any law. Again, absolute rubbish.

In fact, I just posted about a horrific murder where I'd like to see the death penalty implemented, and I'm pretty sure this asshole is a U.S. citizen.

[Rommie]

Exactly! And then when yet another mass shooting happens, what's the first thing the same folks say? "Don't politicize the tragedy!"

[SciFi Chick]

Exactly! And then when yet another mass shooting happens, what's the first thing the same folks say? "Don't politicize the tragedy!"

Indeed. They say this while politicizing it on their side.

[geonuc]

^^^^ 100%

[SciFiFisher]

But... Oh hell. I can't do it. Not even in snarkiness.

It's horrendous no matter how you slice it.

[SciFiFisher]

Exactly! And then when yet another mass shooting happens, what's the first thing the same folks say? "Don't politicize the tragedy!"

Or "it's too soon to talk about that. Let people grieve first."

[Thumper]

Thoughts and prayers.....

[SciFi Chick]

Oh gods. Another mass shooting. Here we go.

[SciFiFisher]

Oh gods. Another mass shooting. Here we go.

Sadly, I am actually relieved that "only" two people were killed and 11 injured.