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Postby SciFi Chick » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:56 pm

Thoughts? Rommie - I'm looking at you. :D
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby Rommie » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:06 pm

It's been a fun few weeks of speculation. :) Basically, it's pretty darn likely that it's a space rock. We know after all that tons of them are flung out into the interstellar void, and this just so happens to be the first time we found one. (Technologically, it wasn't easy with previous surveys to find, but with a recent upgrade to one the estimate is one a year of these should be coming through our solar system that we could find.) The fun thing though is this is the first time in my memory we can't definitively say it's not artificial, so we've been having fun speculating and joking about this lately in the department. :D

I really wish they found an illustrator who wouldn't just make it look like a space turd in all the articles though.
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby Thumper » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:23 pm

I've heard the depictions described a lot worse than a "space turd." ;)
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby SciFiFisher » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:12 pm

I love science. That is all.
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby geonuc » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:18 am

'Oumuamua, isn't it?
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby Thumper » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:36 pm

That's why I had trouble with it. My google search turned up a bunch of Arabic returns until I realized it was about the asteroid that passed by us a month or so ago. I hadn't remembered when I read the articles that they gave it such an incredibly difficult name.
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby SciFi Chick » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:53 pm

I have trouble with my eyesight and typing on a phone. And it is a difficult name. :)
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Postby Thumper » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:15 pm

One of the biggest things holding me back from a smartphone. I cannot type on a touchscreen.
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:02 pm

Thumper wrote:One of the biggest things holding me back from a smartphone. I cannot type on a touchscreen.


Can't say I blame you :)
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby geonuc » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:50 pm

Thumper wrote:One of the biggest things holding me back from a smartphone. I cannot type on a touchscreen.


You'll pick it up well enough. I still can't do the rapid double-thumb typing that youngsters seem to have mastered. Yet I manage to get by.
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby SciFi Chick » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:54 pm

So, apparently, Harvard scientists are now speculating that this is of alien origin? Really? Wow.
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby geonuc » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:28 am

SciFi Chick wrote:So, apparently, Harvard scientists are now speculating that this is of alien origin? Really? Wow.


That would be tres cool, but if true, I'd wonder why said aliens would have their light sail spacecraft just blow through a solar system without so much as a how do you do?
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby Rommie » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:30 am

I saw that. How do I put this. Theorists, particularly the individuals on the paper, are pretty well known for taking speculation and adding some numbers to it to get some discussion going. This one in particular is just a draft paper preprint, not an accepted thing in the journal.

So, take it with a mountain of salt as big as the original asteroid. :P
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby SciFi Chick » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:31 am

Rommie wrote:I saw that. How do I put this. Theorists, particularly the individuals on the paper, are pretty well known for taking speculation and adding some numbers to it to get some discussion going. This one in particular is just a draft paper preprint, not an accepted thing in the journal.

So, take it with a mountain of salt as big as the original asteroid. :P


Well, that's a relief. :D
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby SciFi Chick » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:32 am

geonuc wrote:
SciFi Chick wrote:So, apparently, Harvard scientists are now speculating that this is of alien origin? Really? Wow.


That would be tres cool, but if true, I'd wonder why said aliens would have their light sail spacecraft just blow through a solar system without so much as a how do you do?


I know, right?! :lol:
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby SciFiFisher » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:14 pm

so... Should I cancel the Alien Invasion Doomsday Prepper Party? :P
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby pumpkinpi » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:23 pm

Rommie wrote:I saw that. How do I put this. Theorists, particularly the individuals on the paper, are pretty well known for taking speculation and adding some numbers to it to get some discussion going. This one in particular is just a draft paper preprint, not an accepted thing in the journal.

So, take it with a mountain of salt as big as the original asteroid. :P


I was hoping for a succinct reply such as this from either you or the BA. I wouldn't be surprised if we get calls at the planetarium from press about this.
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby Rommie » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:40 pm

pumpkinpi wrote:
Rommie wrote:I saw that. How do I put this. Theorists, particularly the individuals on the paper, are pretty well known for taking speculation and adding some numbers to it to get some discussion going. This one in particular is just a draft paper preprint, not an accepted thing in the journal.

So, take it with a mountain of salt as big as the original asteroid. :P


I was hoping for a succinct reply such as this from either you or the BA. I wouldn't be surprised if we get calls at the planetarium from press about this.


Yeah, to add to this, I didn't do more than glance through the abstract but one thing I do not get in the context of a solar sail is the asteroid was definitely observed to be tumbling. There is no universe in which you would do that with a solar sail, and it implies you have lost control of the thing.

I mean I guess you can always argue "it was a solar sail and they just lost control of it!" but then I'm going to invoke Occam's Razor and ask you which is more likely.

Also, a decent part of the argument is "these are so rare, what are the odds it would be random!" Well, part of the fun with Oumoamua was the all-sky survey capable of finding it only got in place like last year, and they're expecting to find about one such asteroid a year. You really can't say "this is a once in a century event" when you weren't LOOKING for all those years. :roll:

But as I said, it's Avi Loeb, he's known for all these random speculations.
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby Thumper » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:51 pm

Hey, we need dreamers too. :P
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Re: Oumoamua

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:16 pm

Thumper wrote:Hey, we need dreamers too. :P



I say he just read Rendezvous with Rama :P
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