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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:33 pm

You can't possibly imagine how relieved I am to hear this... Lavrov certain Cuban Missile Crisis will not be repeated due to events in Venezuela.

Nor the confidence this gives me: Trump says may discuss Venezuela with Putin soon
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Thumper » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:15 am

Sigma_Orionis wrote:I've never trusted Tap water here. Despite that It's supposed to be drinkable. I have a stone water filter
I know plenty of people around here that don't trust the tap water. I have my own well and softener.
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby SciFiFisher » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:26 pm

Sigma_Orionis wrote:You can't possibly imagine how relieved I am to hear this... Lavrov certain Cuban Missile Crisis will not be repeated due to events in Venezuela.

Nor the confidence this gives me: Trump says may discuss Venezuela with Putin soon


Just like he discussed the Russian interference with our elections. :roll:
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Thumper » Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:22 am

But the last act in this tragedy can only be performed by the Venezuelans, knowing that the sooner they and their armed forces evict the thieves, the sooner the world will pitch in to help them recover their lives.
I imagine alot of things would scare me. This last sentence seemed to be a glimmer of hope?
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:18 pm

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But the last act in this tragedy can only be performed by the Venezuelans, knowing that the sooner they and their armed forces evict the thieves, the sooner the world will pitch in to help them recover their lives.
I imagine alot of things would scare me. This last sentence seemed to be a glimmer of hope?



Doubtful. The Military's top brass has made it quite clear they're fully behind Maduro. Apparently, the middle ranks are fed up with him but are watched closely so they don't conspire.

In the last few days I've read an interview with some lawyer that claims he's preparing a legal framework that theoretically would allow Guaidó to frame Maduro and his clique as a drug cartel that has taken over the country. Supposedly with the idea of framing any intervention as a police action by a Venezuelan Government led armed force intervention WITH US assistance. Even if its not on shaky ground, and even if there was not international opposition Setting up something like that would take quite some time. Time we don't have.
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:45 pm

Rumor has it that now Maduro wants to negotiate. Couldn't find a credible source. Just this
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:13 pm

Everyone down here hates Julio Borges. I am of the opinion that he's one of the few within the opposition that thinks.

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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Thumper » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:05 pm

The NYT has told me to pound sand if I don't give them some money.
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:28 pm

Your must have read more than 5 articles from their site this month.
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Postby Thumper » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:09 pm

It appears I have. But I get the gist of it and have heard some brief reports.
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby geonuc » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:02 pm

Thumper wrote:The NYT has told me to pound sand if I don't give them some money.


Might be worth doing so. Their reporting is superlative.
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

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Are those sanctions supported by a UN resolution?
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby SciFiFisher » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:45 pm

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Are those sanctions supported by a UN resolution?


Nope. China and Russia pretty much block anything to do with Venezuela.
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:05 pm

SciFiFisher wrote:
geonuc wrote:


Are those sanctions supported by a UN resolution?


Nope. China and Russia pretty much block anything to do with Venezuela.


Not that it matters much though. Cuba is going to have to find another Oil supplier. But, more importantly they're going to have to pay in cash for that oil. China and Russia can block whatever they want at the UN Security council. But, I doubt very much they'll give Cuba a single barrel of oil for free. Much less give them money to buy it elsewhere.
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby SciFiFisher » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:20 pm

Of course there wasn't. :roll:
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby code monkey » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:18 pm

Sigma_Orionis wrote:You can't possibly imagine how relieved I am to hear this... Lavrov certain Cuban Missile Crisis will not be repeated due to events in Venezuela.

Nor the confidence this gives me: Trump says may discuss Venezuela with Putin soon


you're so young to be such a cynic, sigma. now if you can't trust lavrov and trump, whom can you trust?
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:11 pm

code monkey wrote:
Sigma_Orionis wrote:You can't possibly imagine how relieved I am to hear this... Lavrov certain Cuban Missile Crisis will not be repeated due to events in Venezuela.

Nor the confidence this gives me: Trump says may discuss Venezuela with Putin soon


you're so young to be such a cynic, sigma. now if you can't trust lavrov and trump, whom can you trust?


Not Maduro, that's for sure...
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:21 pm

I just posted this piece elsewhere. Because it looks like THIS TIME, PSFs are losing steam.

I can't say I disagree with this one though.
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby SciFiFisher » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:46 pm

Sigma_Orionis wrote:I just posted this piece elsewhere. Because it looks like THIS TIME, PSFs are losing steam.

I can't say I disagree with this one though.


I have a hard time understanding how even a corrupt regime can go from producing over 3 million barrels of oil to barely 750,000. :think:
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:05 pm

SciFiFisher wrote:
Sigma_Orionis wrote:I just posted this piece elsewhere. Because it looks like THIS TIME, PSFs are losing steam.

I can't say I disagree with this one though.


I have a hard time understanding how even a corrupt regime can go from producing over 3 million barrels of oil to barely 750,000. :think:


Because it wasn't corruption alone. There was a lot of ideological rigidity. By 2014 they had painted themselves into a corner. They could not admit their precious "Socialism for the 21st Century" had failed miserably. So, they doubled down, over and over again. Remember: they were so adamant denying we were suffering from hyperinflation that they refused to put in circulation higher denomination bills and there has been a cash shortage since 2017. Furthermore, they refused to do a currency re-conversion (as in removing zeroes and issuing new currency) until it was way too late (of course, the economic policies needed to stop hyper-inflation were never even considered because they were not "socialist"). They couldn't admit there was a a humanitarian crisis that made over three million people leave the country until it became international news.

Of course, we're way past the ideological phase right now. They're doing anything they can to cling to power. Because, they know that even if they aren't a a bunch of Drug Traffickers, there's no way they are not going to be let off with a slap in the wrist if (hopefully WHEN) they fall.

Of course, this doesn't happen only to "Socialists". Your Republicans seem to have gone down pretty far down that path. However, your Dems haven't still (despite it all) been bitten by "Ideological Purity". I consider that, THAT, which is seen as weakness these days, is their greatest strength in resisting nutjobs like the DSA.
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby Sigma_Orionis » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:13 pm

Looks like Gauido is moving in to get to his endgame

Despite what Maduro's Propaganda Minister says, Numero Dos has called on all Chavistas to go to Miraflores (sort of like the White House) to defend Maduro. That suggests that this time there's a considerable number of Military Personnel backing Gauido
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Re: Banana Republic Newsflash

Postby SciFiFisher » Wed May 01, 2019 1:19 am

The news reports don't sound very promising here in the almost Banana Republic of the U.S.
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